EPISODE 419 • NOVEMBER 12, 2026
Before you can say AI made your team more efficient, you need to know how efficient the team was before it. Jonathan Green talks with Shannon Ryan, who works in technology strategy at Veritas Automata, about why so many companies roll out AI without a baseline, how clients handed a 20% efficiency target end up asking for token counts instead of outcomes, and why an AI readiness check starts with your data and your manual processes. They also cover what a rushed AI rollout does to the people in the room, and what cutting junior roles does to the pipeline of future leaders.
Key Takeaways:
Notable Quotes:
"It is where's your baseline of your data, and are you actually ready for AI?" — Shannon Ryan
"But how are we actually gonna get the humans to adopt it? And when there's adoption, then it reduces the fear and resistance of a new tool." — Shannon Ryan
Connect with Shannon Ryan:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannoncryan
Company: https://veritasautomata.com
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